Extended Interview: Tom Llamas sits down with Secretary of State Marco Rubio

NBC News Friday 15 May 2026, 22:30 UTC 1 min read

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On the sidelines of the Trump-Xi Summit in Beijing, NBC News' Tom Llamas sits down with Secretary of State Marco Rubio to discuss China policy, the war with Iran, the future of Cuba, and more.

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