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Man City charges LIVE: Punishment causes Premier League split as £300m 'catastrophe' looms Manchester City are still waiting to discover their punishment for being found guilty of breaching Premier League financial rules, though they have appealed the decision Hello and welcome to Mirror Football's live blog on Tuesday, October 6, where we will bring you the latest on the guilty verdict for Manchester City after breaching Premier League financial rules. Last Tuesday, the Premier League...
Man City charges LIVE: Punishment causes Premier League split as £300m 'catastrophe' looms
Manchester City are still waiting to discover their punishment for being found guilty of breaching Premier League financial rules, though they have appealed the decision
Hello and welcome to Mirror Football's live blog on Tuesday, October 6, where we will bring you the latest on the guilty verdict for Manchester City after breaching Premier League financial rules.
Last Tuesday, the Premier League confirmed that City had been found guilty on 114 of the 115 charges, stating that the club used 'sham' sponsorship deals to inflate their income by almost £900million during the nine-year period.
City, however, have denied any wrongdoing and appealed the decision last Thursday. The club believe they are "innocent of the accusations made by the Premier League" and say they have "a comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence" to support their case.
One argument City are said to be using during the appeal is that the extra funding came from the Abu Dhabi government and not the club's owners, Abu Dhabi United Group (ADUG), something which is allowed under Premier League rules. However, a statement from the main sponsors, Etihad, back in 2015, appears to contradict it.
There is still a lot of talk over what could happen. Stay right here for all of the latest...
Dublin 'sad' and 'shocked' about City's guilty verdict
Former Manchester United and Aston Villa forward Dion Dublin has claimed he is "sad" and "shocked" by Manchester City's guilty verdict, believing that the punishment has got to be "heavy".
Dublin said: "I feel quite sad about it. I think everybody feels the same. It's quite a big shock. I've never heard of anything like this in football before, of this scale.
"We obviously have to wait until everything's played out, of course we do. But if you think about it as an outsider, you do think to yourself, the fans have spent a few quid traveling all over the world, all over the country, watching Man City win things. So there's probably a bitter taste in their mouth now.
"They've probably got their fingers crossed thinking, when this is all played out, hopefully it was money well spent for us.
"Relegation? It's really tough because I don't know how you measure it when this has never happened before. How do you measure the consequence or the punishment?
"Because this punishment has never been there before. So you have to think about something new, something that's going to be quite heavy. But again, that's once we have the 100% facts and the 100% answer.
"There's obviously a lot of speculation, but listen, we really don't know, but it's surprising. It's really surprising."
Carragher: City should receive three-to-five-year punishment
Jamie Carragher has called for Manchester City to receive a 'three-to-five-year' punishment that is serious enough to force their star players to leave the club.
Speaking on the latest episode of The Overlap's Fan Debate, Carragher said: "People are talking about 80 points or 100 points over one season, that gets you relegated and then you come back again.
"I think a few players would leave but some of them would think they can put up with that for a year. It also builds a sort of connection with the supporters, they’ll be seen in a great light.
"But because this has gone on for so long, I do think the punishment should be over a number of years, three to five years. I think then that players would move on.
"You've then got the financial aspect of how City would be able to afford the wages of those players if they haven't got Premier League money. And you can only spend the money that you bring in. They'll have to abide by it now!"
Premier League rivals share new verdict
If Manchester City's appeal fails, Premier League clubs do not expected City to be in the Premier League next season, according to Sky Sports. They feel that the 'punishment should fit the crime' and City should be at least relegated down to the Championship.
Many believe that a points deduction is not a sufficient punishment if it would lead to City spending just one season outside the top flight. The consensus appears to be that rules have to be respected by all clubs, no matter their size or status - and it would not be sufficient to hand City a punishment that would last only one season for rules which were broken across multiple seasons.
Collymore on City punishment
Former Nottingham Forest and Liverpool forward Stan Collymore has called on Manchester City to be stripped of every trophy won since 2009 if they are unsuccessful with their appeal against the guilty verdict.
Despite the charges dating back to 2009-2018, the former Liverpool man has said the club should also be stripped of every trophy since then if the verdict is upheld.
Speaking to Canadasportsbetting, he said: "First of all, if any of the clubs I played for were found guilty of what Manchester City has been found guilty of - of course, still waiting for the appeal, but for now - I would take all trophies of those clubs, including my own, both for that period and the period after, as one leads to the other.
"Pending appeal, they could be proved to have cheated from 2009 to 2018 and built a club that is then super successful afterwards, so you would need to take the trophies they won after 2018 away from them again."
"You can't win in the following years without what happened in the years they allegedly cheated. That's just common sense. I would not give those titles to other clubs.
"I think you would have to give the years an asterisk, saying that no titles were won because of the Manchester City case, and then people would be able to search up the reason behind it in a history book one day."
City appeal could be undermined
Manchester City's appeal against the ruling that they used 'sham' sponsorship agreements could be undermined after they gave evidence to UEFA around the same deals.
More than six years ago, City told a UEFA panel that a mystery figure who made two £15million payments to cover sponsorship money in 2012 and 2013 was financial broker Jaber Mohamed. But it soon was revealed that Mohamed was the general director of the United Arab Emirates' Crown Prince Court (CPC).
The money should have instead been paid by the UAE's majority-state-owned telecommunications company Etisalat - and therefore is one of the 'sham' deals the independent commission ruled last week.
Premier League could send 'message' with City
Speaking on The Transfers podcast, journalist Nick Harris believes that the Premier League could take the opportunity to send a message with a decision on City.
"I see this as an opportunity for the Premier League, and why an opportunity? They cannot, in normal circumstances, investigate each club's actions behind the scenes," he said.
"Yes, they get to see their accounts; yes, they get to see player contracts and manager contracts, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But if a club chooses to do what Manchester City have been found guilty of doing, the Premier League cannot know that unless they make a mistake, or someone like Rui Pinto comes along, gets documentary evidence and puts that in the public domain, it gets investigated, it gets prosecuted.
"So we know it can happen now, we know the Premier League can never have the kind of investigative authority to stop it from happening themselves on a regular basis. Therefore, when you find the club guilty, you set down a message. Anyone who tries anything like this again, if you get caught, we will destroy you."
Maresca to speak to City players
Manchester City head coach Enzo Maresca will get the chance to speak to his players for the first time this Thursday following the Premier League's landmark verdict.
Those players on international duty are set to return to Manchester on Thursday, where boss Maresca is expected to speak to them for the first time. Preparations will then get underway for the weekend’s showdown with Liverpool at Anfield.
City’s England cohort will return to the club’s training ground on Thursday just days after Thomas Tuchel had admitted that the case had been a distraction.
City owners could sell club
Manchester City's owners could try to sell the club in reaction to their guilty verdict, according to an expert on the United Arab Emirates.
The club are owned by Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan, the deputy prime minister and vice president of the United Arab Emirates. While City are not directly owned by the UAE, Mansour and club chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak are inextricably linked to the Middle Eastern country and its capital Abu Dhabi.
Christopher M Davidson, author of Abu Dhabi: Oil & Beyond, believes Sheikh Mansour will sell the club he has owned since 2008 if City's appeal is not successful in clearing their name.
"Once there's some time to digest this, my feeling would be that they would extricate themselves," he told The Athletic. "I think primarily it would be seen from a political and cultural aspect.
"The ruling family of Abu Dhabi would feel that they had been embarrassed and disgraced by this ruling, and the best way of moving forward would be to sell now to cut the losses, as it were, rather than allow this to be a festering, lingering problem where the ownership of their club would be forever tainted in England. I can’t see any scenario where they would continue."
Speaking to the club website in June, Al Mubarak said there was 'no intention to sell' City. He added: "Manchester City and this group within the football world is a pinnacle and these sorts of jewels you don’t sell."
How much Premier League relegation could cost City
Football finance expert Kieran Maguire has revealed how much relegation from the Premier League would cost Manchester City after the club's guilty verdict.
Maguire explained that the loss of broadcasting (£50m) and Champions League (£225) revenue could total £275m, while the matchday revenue could fall by around £40m.
"City fans will still turn up," Maguire told The i Paper. "That's not an issue. We've seen that with West Ham. They get relegated, but the hardcore fanbase will remain.
"What Manchester City will struggle to do is to sell the boxes, to sell the experiences, to sell the Tunnel Club offerings at the prices which they've been charging this season. Because you can't do it.
"You can't do it at home to Swansea and expect to get the same money coming in as you have when you've got Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal and so on."
Clubs split on City verdict
Premier League clubs are split on expelling Manchester City from the top-flight after they were found guilty on 114 of the 115 charges levelled against them.
Some believe City's rule-breaking should see them kicked out and start again in non-league, while others are said to fear that removing them could lead to the resurrection of a European Super League.
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